Crackpot conspiracy theory believed by millions violates laws of physics

[Mike E. Fullerton]

New article explains how the US government's official explanation for
what happened on September 11, 2001 includes violating the laws of
physics. NIST's explanation of how WTC 7 fell violates the
conservation laws, law of conservation of energy and the law of
conservation of momentum.

http://knol.google.com/k/michael-fullerton/nist-wtc-7-9-11-theory-violates-the/1hwr2894wxokh/10#view


Since crackpots don't know they are crackpots here are some other
signs you are a crackpot:

1) attack people instead of their arguments
2) divert attention from unassailable points by introducing irrelevant
arguments
3) build up false positions to attack instead of the opponents actual
position
4) engage in all manner of other logically fallacious reasoning

___
Skeptopathy (pathological skepticism)
the unscientific belief that unusual phenomena are bunk.

[Androcles]

"Mike E. Fullerton" <***@spam-killer-remove-techie.com> wrote in
message news:***@4ax.com...
| New article explains how the US government's

Take it to a US government newsgroup, crackpot.

[eric gisse]

Post by Mike E. Fullerton
New article explains how the US government's official explanation for
what happened on September 11, 2001 includes violating the laws of
physics. NIST's explanation of how WTC 7 fell violates the
conservation laws, law of conservation of energy and the law of
conservation of momentum.

For fucks sake. Go away troofers.

Post by Mike E. Fullerton
http://knol.google.com/k/michael-fullerton/nist-wtc-7-9-11-theory-

violates-the/1hwr2894wxokh/10#view

Post by Mike E. Fullerton
Since crackpots don't know they are crackpots here are some other
1) attack people instead of their arguments
2) divert attention from unassailable points by introducing irrelevant
arguments
3) build up false positions to attack instead of the opponents actual
position
4) engage in all manner of other logically fallacious reasoning
___
Skeptopathy (pathological skepticism)
the unscientific belief that unusual phenomena are bunk.

[PeterD]

On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:00:49 -0700, Mike E. Fullerton

New article explains how the ...

... conspiracy idiots continue to drag up crap and post it
off-topic... POAD, FOAD, ESAD, etc, Mr. Fullerton.

[Mike E. Fullerton]

Post by PeterD
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:00:49 -0700, Mike E. Fullerton

New article explains how the ...

... conspiracy idiots continue to drag up crap and post it
off-topic... POAD, FOAD, ESAD, etc, Mr. Fullerton.

Hmmm...a skeptical article involving engineering and physics is
off-topic in skeptic, engineering and physics groups. The mind of a
raving crackpot in action folks.

Three for three so far. Is no one here able to respond in a purely
scientific rational manner? This is high school physics here. Did 9/11
result in the destruction of all your brain cells as well as three
skyscrapers?

Remember: Since crackpots don't know they are crackpots here are some
other signs you are a crackpot:

1) attack people instead of their arguments
2) divert attention from unassailable points by introducing irrelevant
arguments
3) build up false positions to attack instead of the opponents actual
position
4) engage in all manner of other logically fallacious reasoning

___
Skeptopathy (pathological skepticism)
the unscientific belief that unusual phenomena are bunk.

[spudnik]

there are very few -- although I should've at least *listened*
to the Epicureans -- Greek cults under the Romans,
that were not generally used as pejorative, later; but,
I don't know of one source that would list them as such.

i.e. *The Skeptical Inquirer* and so on are awfully mainstream,
including about 9/11/2001/cce; perhaps they are really the Stoics!

Post by Mike E. Fullerton
Hmmm...a skeptical article involving engineering and physics is
Skeptopathy (pathological skepticism)

thus&so:
it is easy to prove that Ptolemy's system was a hoax, although
I do not know, why it was sought. a much more elaborate hoax
is Newtonianism -- The Principia "burnt in Alchemie" and
actually constructed by a famous committee -- veritably the 2nd Church
of England, Secular (anti-trinitarian, freemasonic etc. ad
vomitorium).
but, I didn't do that research -- see the sigfile!

thus&so:
what makes you think, anyone is going to read all of that crap?...
did you know that "Scanners" was a metaphor for "speed reading,"
specifically the Evie Wood School?
y'know, the alleged prominence of your authorities is a great
matter
of pro-hominem debate, since you won't answer ... I forgot,
after that deluge of scanning!
thanks, for not spamming the list of groups (I was *going*
to type, that I used to believe that all anonymous postings
were by one dog-you-don't-necessarily-know-
isn't-a-dog, but I had no idea that it was *just one dumb guy*
with a macro .-)
(don't, tell, s/he/it, about, e-macs !-)

thus&so:
ne, Kaluza 5d "4+1" spacetime,
rechristened with one compactified dimension
by Klein -- *a* Klein, at any rate, maybe
not Alvin "the original blankety-blank stringguy" Klein.

Post by Mike E. Fullerton
"blankety-blank string theorist"

thus&so:
missed the characterization of Fermat primes by a finitessimal.

Post by Mike E. Fullerton
look for m = a + b with m, a, b in the set
of numbers k such that 6 k +- 1 are twin primes.
If it comforts you: a very great deal; thanks!

thus&so:
and Gauss said, numbertheory, implicitly implying that
there was a king of the sciences ... probably co-equal.
so, what is the surfer's canonical value of pi; like,
can you prove it?

Post by Mike E. Fullerton
"Psychology, the queen of sciences" is her, saith Nietzsche.

um, statistics, not, king; thank *you*.

thus&so:
oops; I meant, of course, as discovered in the 2nd and
the 0th millennia c.e. -- God-am period.

Post by Mike E. Fullerton
guru-nG-forces say, Go jump into a deep, clear pool of spacetime!

thus&so:
whoah, time-lapse satellite views; synthetic aperature radar,
scanning the Face on Mars get-together ... look,
I see him -- it's Dick, and he appears to be talking
to himself, but y'never know with "digital;" yeah,
I'm very sure that the Face will eventually resolve
into Dick Hoagland, age three, kind-of like in 2001,
The Movie dot company. or, the Hyperdimensional OrangeClockWorks?
[PS: finally, it turned out to be, good-ol' Vectr'n'Scalr;
they found it on Vger in that episode -- just tell everyone,
all of our math, Carl .-]
as for [deletive impleted]'s statement, you didn't include it and
I often do not deign to link to strange googol results --
what am I, the Math Marketing Board ... I mean,
I went to the last meeting, which was also the first one,
and why haven't I received my God-am "per diem," yet?
well, I wonder which countries are going to take the dare,
to implement the pentagoogol to factor all numbers
of physical import, except for cryptoblats. or,
which innovative corporate start-ups? (Bucky F. had an idea
that was similar, if not completely bogus,
re "Scheherazade numbers" (I mean, as far as I could say,
it was absolutely bogus, but then, so was 17291...
esp. the factorial (172911 .-)

thus&so:
wow, a parallelotope associated with *every* Hilbert space?

Post by Mike E. Fullerton
Geometric embeddings of metric spaces by Juha Heinonen.

thus&so:
yes, and prime gaps, sounds as if it could be related
to prime frequencies -- yahoo! (tm)
seriously, you're just talking about Venn diagrams; eh?

Post by Mike E. Fullerton
There is only one; one is the loneliest number1

really, truly saith1

--BP's Next Bailout of Wall St. etc. ad vomitorium,
Waxman's *new* cap&trade (circa '91).
http://wlym.com

[Uncle Al]

Post by Mike E. Fullerton
New article explains how the US government's official explanation for
what happened on September 11, 2001 includes violating the laws of
physics. NIST's explanation of how WTC 7 fell violates the
conservation laws, law of conservation of energy and the law of
conservation of momentum.

[snip crap]

There is no statement that cannot be lubricated for ingestion by
rampant stupidity.

[Mike E. Fullerton]

Post by Uncle Al

Post by Mike E. Fullerton
New article explains how the US government's official explanation for
what happened on September 11, 2001 includes violating the laws of
physics. NIST's explanation of how WTC 7 fell violates the
conservation laws, law of conservation of energy and the law of
conservation of momentum.

[snip crap]
There is no statement that cannot be lubricated for ingestion by
rampant stupidity.

Are you able then to respond to the _purportedly_ incorrect
high-school level physics explained in the article? Or are your
intellectual capacities merely limited to spouting inane sophomoric
platitudes obfuscated by verbosity? I know how I'm betting.

Remember: Since crackpots don't know they are crackpots here are some
other signs you are a crackpot:

1) attack people instead of their arguments
2) divert attention from unassailable points by introducing irrelevant
arguments
3) build up false positions to attack instead of the opponents actual
position
4) engage in all manner of other logically fallacious reasoning

___
Skeptopathy (pathological skepticism)
the unscientific belief that unusual phenomena are bunk.

[Benj]

Post by Uncle Al
[snip crap]

I agree with Uncle Al. Like him I believe in the principles of Social
Darwinism which include:

1. Governments never lie.

2. If any person is called "idiot, moron, crackpot, kook, nutcase,
loon, or any other variation of insane" in a debate you no longer need
to listen to anything they have to say. Insane people don't make
sense.

3. Never read any articles, papers, reports or other materials
discussing the facts you are debating. Your rebuttal will be much more
creative that way.

4. Conspiracies never exist and such theories are total nonsense.
(especially in politics)

5. Anyone caught in a crime will immediately admit guilt when
confronted.

6. ANY and ALL questions raised on ANY issue are easily decided by a
quick review of major media articles on the matter.

7. The opinion of the majority of the public will decide what is true
in any issue including scientific ones. This is a Democracy after all!

8. Governments only have the best interests of their citizens in mind
and would never do anything to harm or kill them.

9. Oh yeah. Idiot.

[spudnik]

there's a guy, a mister Griffith, an academic in theology,
who publishes books about the 9/11 "controlled demo.'

I went to a talk he gave, got there late, and only caught
his last, two, bogus statements, which I challenged (hint:
one involves "box-cutters").

his next book removed these two items!

thus&so:
see if you can find the U.S. Reference Climate Network,
without googoling yourself. well, recently,
when I tried to find it with a search,
it was stated that it had somehow been abandoned,
even though it was nothing but a dataset of 28 continental stations.

thus&so:
wow, what a quibble. of course, if
you think in terms of blackbody absorption & radiation,
the distinction is rather slighter, and
NASA's qualifying terms are correcter.

thus&so:
cap&trade is as old as Waxman's '91 bill under HDubya, and
the editors of the WSUrinal just love it; however,
they refer to Waxman's current bill as "cap&tax,"
without ever explaining, why. (see my letter to Rep. Hamilton,
belowsville .-)

thus&so:
really; my city promotes all green stuff, in cooperation,
I suppose, with the WAND Corp., and also "global" warming.
they just had two authors of a book, _Smoke and Mirrors_,
at the library, who use the tobacco science baddies
to demonize the "global" warming deniers. they just had
an editorial in the LAtribcoTIMES, and they dyssed S. Fred Singer,
as per usual with mainstream GCMers -- which is mostly
what they are, not really AGWers.
look at Singer's retrospective metastudy on glaciers,
please; thank *you*.

thus&so:
Schroedinger's cat is dead;
long-live Schroedinger's cat!

thus&so:
I tried the 3D glasses, the other day, and it was really weird,
*without* closing one eye in the mirror; makes one's eye's look flat &
glassy.
(I assumed, UA wasn't using the red & blue kind.)

thus&so:
how does the "gravity swing" differ essentially
from the radiometer, if both are just pendula?
how does merely asserting the error of Lorent's contraction,
which seems quite reasonable to those of us,
who believe that atoms have angular momentum,
mean that you have disproven special relativity?

I don't see how e = hf applies where there may be no atomic absorption.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure

Dear Rep. Lee (http://centeroncongress.org):
Californians are at fault, probably being User #1 of Gulf oil & gas
via pipelines ... all because of spill off of Santa Barbara in '68.
Now, A.G. Brown is determined not to drill, at all. (Also, the
offloading facilities in the Delta must have contributed greatly to
the problems with Katrina.)

Look; oil comes out of the ground, by itself, under pressure. Perhaps
it was a Natl.Geo. article on offshore driiling, showed that approx.
one XXValdez/year seeps (organically) from the bottom of the Gulf --
while "we" are pumping like crazy.

British P. is the #1 operator in the Gulf and Alaska; maybe, their USA
ops should be nationalized. The WSUrinal often likens Waxman's bill
to "cap&tax," but as far as I know (and as Rep. Waxman seemed to
admit, in our brief conversation) it is just "let the arbitrageurs and
daytrippers make as much money on our energy, as they can."

An expert on emmissions at a UCLA forum agreed that a small carbon tax
would achieve the same ends, but that "that is politically
impossible." The Urinal also noted-in-passing that a tax would work,
but that was in a guest editorial, promoting cap&trade ... the same as
the Kyoto Protocol, which Dubya'd have signed, if he knew that it was
just "free trade, free beer & freedom in the free market." And, it is
the same as Waxman's '91 cap&trade bill on NOX and SO2, viz acid rain.

So, how did it go, then, and who made the money?

--Sincerely, Brian

[spudnik]

OK, I'll tell you the first one that I heard Griffith say,
at the end of his 9/11/2001 Truth talk:
that it was absurd that a terrorist could cut your throat
with a box-cutter, when it was legal to have one
in commercial flight.

thus&so:
sounds interesting, but I doubt that you will get much of a reading,
since M&M et sequentia did not -- but, it was *a* reading. now,
you'd probably call that, entrained aether, but I really don't
see any need for such in "electromagnetism
with no Pascalian (perfect) vacuum" (and I recall reading,
the air is half hydrogen, 500 miles out e.g.)

I can get Earth’s speed and direction without reference to any stars!

thus&so:
I read [*] the name of the unindicted co-conspirator
of HDubya in Iran-contra, Oliver "Buck" Revell,
who laid down the law at the NSF meeting,
that "global" cooling would henceforth not be funded. see,
I put that word in scare-quotes, becuase it was the self-
same flat-map miscomprehension of insolation
-- merely the differential from pole to equator --
that presupposes that glaciation requires a lesser temperature,
or that deglaciation'd require a greater one.
*
http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/

--Stop BP's and Waxman's arbitrageur's delight,
the cap&trade that the WSUrinal *calls*, Captain Tax (but,
there seems to be no provision for goment revenues )-!...
Fermat's Next Theorem: http://wlym.com

[spudnik]

the other one -- which he apparently also removed
from his next rewrite of the book -- was that
they were inadequately trained to fly a 757 into a building 9but,
most accidents occur at take-off & landing, so....)

anyway, the pancake theory was not even wrong, so
it is effectively a strawman -- that the Truthers believe in,
categorically, because it seems to mean that
free-fall is unattainable, except by "controlled demo."

thus&so:
it ain't the unions; it is the British cap&trade condominiums
(ICE, CCX etc. ad vomitorium), and their slogan
from the Kyoto Protocol, Beyondish Petroleumish (tm); hey,
you can't get blood from a porous rock, but, apparently,
you can get "fossilized fuel (tm)" from one.

call your broker *before* Waxman's bill is passed
by the Senate -- they are under *huge* pressure,
with the silly/fake anti-cap&tax editorials from the WSUrinal and
the teaparty (they believe, taxation without representation
was the biggest issue of the Revolution .-)

thus&so:
yes; like, Shackleton et al's study, although
I don't think that they really noticed or noted that. also,
see G. Woillard's "Abrupt Collapse of the Eemian Interglacial,
*sensu strictu*," via palynology, showing retrogressive
vegetational succession (or desertification) in Grand Pile, France.

hot spells and cold spells presage the onset of glaciation.

thus&so:
a-hem, "note" the number of scientists explaining why,
antarctica has cooled -- cooled?
just as with the Arctic ice, all of it floating,
maybe you are referring ot the Larsen Ice Shelf,
sticking out on the peninsula, into the weather differentials.

explanations of why Antarctica has actually cooled.
http://www.scar.org/publications/occasionals/ACCE_25_Nov_2009.pdf
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8387137.stm

thus&so:
the models are very sparse grids, with heuristical connections
between the hydrosphere, atmosphere & lithosphere e.g.,
if at all. then, the floating-point spec (IEEE-754, -854,
I think) is inherently chaotic -- and variously implimented.
OK, seriously; who is working for BP and my broker,
here, on the cap&trade portfolio?

thus&so:
lies, polls & statistics. like the "skeptical statistician" said,
in *The [Holy] Economist* newsmagazine (a.k.a. the voice
of the British Foreign Office),
cold kills far oftener than heat in this world ... although
there could be some cool physiological reason for that.

so, why do you believe that BP and other oilcos are
against cap&trade -- they hate money?

--BP's Next (or Last) Bailout of Wall St. and the City
(of London, the gated community & financial district),
CAP and TRADE (circa '91, Waxman's Acid Rain bill)
--http://wlym.com

[PeterD]

On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 16:12:30 -0700 (PDT), spudnik

Post by spudnik
the other one --

If you use proper 2x4 and 2x6 structural techniques the aircraft will
fly just fine. It is only when you build with lumber scavanged from
old shipping pallets do you experience problems due to mis-matched
material density.