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Dynamite bought the twin towers down say 73 top professors...Don't expect the media to cover it
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l***@hotmail.com
2006-09-08 12:21:46 UTC
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The 9/11 terrorist attack on America which left almost 3,000 people
dead was an "inside job", according to a group of leading academics.

Around 75 top professors and leading scientists believe the attacks
were puppeteered by war mongers in the White House to justify the
invasion and the occupation of oil-rich Arab countries.

The claims have caused outrage and anger in the US which marks the
fifth anniversary of the terrorist attacks on Monday.

But leading scientists say the facts of their investigations cannot be
ignored and say they have evidence that points to one of the biggest
conspiracies ever perpetrated. Professor Steven Jones, who lectures in
physics at the Brigham Young University in Utah, says the official
version of events is the biggest and most evil cover up in history.

He has joined the 9/11 Scholars for Truth whose membership includes up
to 75 leading scientists and experts from universities across the US.

Prof Jones said: "We don't believe that 19 hijackers and a few others
in a cave in Afghanistan pulled this off acting alone.

"We challenge this official conspiracy theory and, by God, we're going
to get to the bottom of this."

They believe a group of US neo-conservatives called the Project for a
New American Century, set on US world dominance, orchestrated the 9/11
attacks as an excuse to hit Iraq, Afghanistan and later Iran.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=403757&in_page_id=1770

The Demolition of the World Trade Centre Complex:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6545313046180631815
Nick Markowitz
2006-09-17 01:23:40 UTC
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All people like you and the 75 professors do is disrespect the 911 heroes
pick up a book on demolition of buildings
and realise just how stupid there claims and staements are. Speculation and
conjecture is not an acceptable testimony in a court of law it must be
provable. The National Institutes of science and Popular mechanics got it
right.They spent millions of dollars did hard impericle reasearch and
analysists. That dis prove all the conspiracy thorists and there total horse
shit based on made up and exploitited statistics.None of what any of these
conspiracy folks produce could even be used to get a warrant to start a
case.
Yes there were amaericans involved who have blood on there hands and have
gotten away with it becuse kooks are wasting valuble reseach time on a non
fact instead oof focusing on the real criminal who made the profits off 911
Ray Turner
2006-09-17 02:08:52 UTC
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Post by Nick Markowitz
All people like you and the 75 professors do is disrespect the 911 heroes
No, they are showing zero respect to the criminal trash that brought the
towers (AND WTC7) DOWN.
Post by Nick Markowitz
and realise just how stupid there claims and staements are. Speculation and
conjecture is not an acceptable testimony in a court of law it must be
provable.
You don't have the first clue how the justice system works in many parts
of the country. In some cases, judges have given the police free reign
by rubber stamping any request for a warrant.
Post by Nick Markowitz
The National Institutes of science and Popular mechanics got it
right.
Popular Science -- let's see....But who is Benjamin Chertoff, the "senior
researcher" at Popular Mechanics who is behind the article? American Free
Press has learned that he is none other than a cousin of Michael Chertoff,
the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

National Institutes of Science? Are you talking about an entity wholly
owned and operated by fedgov?
Post by Nick Markowitz
They spent millions of dollars did hard impericle reasearch and
analysists. That dis prove all the conspiracy thorists and there total horse
shit based on made up and exploitited statistics.None of what any of these
conspiracy folks produce could even be used to get a warrant to start a
case.
There's more than enough probable cause. The problem is - fedgov holds
the reins of power and they have the ability to produce endless amounts of
money to fund their projects. Don't believe it? Ask Rumsfield. The day
before 9/11, he went on CBS news and announce that by some estimates 3.2
trillion was unaccounted for by the pentagon.
Post by Nick Markowitz
Yes there were amaericans involved who have blood on there hands and
have gotten away with it becuse kooks are wasting valuble reseach time
on a non fact instead oof focusing on the real criminal who made the
profits off 911
The Americans involved are holding power at the highest levels of power.
They are getting away with it, so far, because the system of checks and
balances is no longer working.
gerry
2006-09-17 02:20:13 UTC
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Without going into what really brought down the WTC, the subject line
on this posting does not match the article cited. 75 top professors is
not the 73 in the subject line. The article in the Daily Mail says
high explosive brought down the twin towers, not specifically dynamite.

If there was an explosive used at either of the towers, it would have
transferred a chemical signature to some of the metal superstructure
that collapsed. It should be easy enough to rule out explosives by
running some simple gas chromatography tests on the large metal
fragments from the WTC, especially aluminum window moldings that were
not severely fire damaged.
Oh, I forgot, almost all the scrap metal was shipped out immediately to
metal recyclers in Red China, one country where inquisitive Western
reporters would have a hard time getting to the recycling plant.
Post by l***@hotmail.com
The 9/11 terrorist attack on America which left almost 3,000 people
dead was an "inside job", according to a group of leading academics.
Around 75 top professors and leading scientists believe the attacks
were puppeteered by war mongers in the White House to justify the
invasion and the occupation of oil-rich Arab countries.
The claims have caused outrage and anger in the US which marks the
fifth anniversary of the terrorist attacks on Monday.
But leading scientists say the facts of their investigations cannot be
ignored and say they have evidence that points to one of the biggest
conspiracies ever perpetrated. Professor Steven Jones, who lectures in
physics at the Brigham Young University in Utah, says the official
version of events is the biggest and most evil cover up in history.
He has joined the 9/11 Scholars for Truth whose membership includes up
to 75 leading scientists and experts from universities across the US.
Prof Jones said: "We don't believe that 19 hijackers and a few others
in a cave in Afghanistan pulled this off acting alone.
"We challenge this official conspiracy theory and, by God, we're going
to get to the bottom of this."
They believe a group of US neo-conservatives called the Project for a
New American Century, set on US world dominance, orchestrated the 9/11
attacks as an excuse to hit Iraq, Afghanistan and later Iran.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=403757&in_page_id=1770
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6545313046180631815
Nick Markowitz
2006-09-17 16:23:50 UTC
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If all the metal was shipped to China how was NIST able to show the beams
sitting out on the Staton Island heap with the serial numbers on them to do
there research.
and in depth metalurgy.
Not all the metal disapeared more legend stuff and statements taken out of
context.What about the steel from WTC that was remelted and used in the new
war ship bow.
Yes some steel was suposedly taken by mafia for black market But the trucks
hauling it to staton island were fitted with GPS with in a few days to track
the steel and other loads.


Like I said speculation and conjecture does not cut it in a court of law.
sighting one thing as total proof of a crime does not work either.
To take a matter to court and get conviction it must pass various provable
standards.
This includes all photographs and other media and testing standards must
meet and pass the accepted standards of the courts .
Do not tell me how easy it is to get a warrant yes some are done slipshod
most are not and a respectable judge
will not issue a warrant unless it meets the standards required.
I could just as easily make a film or documentary about WTC and fill it with
lies and conjecture put it on the internet and sell it and have a milllion
people bielieve it.
but it could not and would not pass muster in the courts.
If any of these individuals who had solid provable evidence that could be
taken to the courts or even the world court I would be among the first to
make sure it got there and was brought to the worlds attention.

Unfortunately no one has come forward with any thing more than speculation
and conjecture.
no hard proof.

If you want to know who was behind 911 start with the stock market find out
who those individuals were who
placed the put options on the airlines that day.
and made all the money.
then follow it from there.
Deep Throat said it best :" follow the money."
Of course this takes real investigative skills and the chance
some one will come and knock on your door and make you disapear.
making a speculative documemntary just makes one a useful idiot as the real
perpatators get away with what they did.
Were americans even possible goverment employees involved in 911 better
bielieve it.
Because some one profitted off the stock market and a lot more have
profitted tremendously with all the security stuff being sold to DHS and
corporations etc. in the name of protecting the country maybe the same
individuals .
There were how many corporations that back dated stock proxys etc that made
loads of money off of 911 Thats a known provable fact currently under
investigation by SEC
There were also those in the goverment Like Jamie Gorecky who put the
Firewall up between the FBI and NSA/CIA from sharing intellegence files
which might have stopped 911 before it happened.
There were numerous attempts to get the FBI and other agencys to look into
why middle eastern men were learning to fly but not land planes which were
ignored by the FBI .
Why because the FBI and other law enforcement agencys ignore civilains with
information on possible criminal matters. Civilains in the eyes of law
enforcemnet are not credible. Another known and proved fact.
Nothing has changed either in this matter.
There have been numerous break ins and vandalisims at
Radio and TV station transmitter sites it has been brought to FBI and DHS
attention as this could be possible terrorists attempting to get Info on how
all this work and what has FBI, DHS done nothing. all they have done is
issue a statment to broadcast engineers to travel to transmitter sites in
pairs as a secuirty precauiton.
I had unknown individuals attempt to knock down one of the radio towers at
WAVL 910 am FBI,DHS, FCC contacted becuse of the damage which knocked WAVL
off the air .No response no investigation.
Could it have been possible terrorists you tell me its a christian religon
station.
I even contacted Alex jones the big 911 and big government conspiracy talk
host to look into the matter nothing.
Want to know why no one wants to take a hard look into the real perpatrators
maybe becuse theres real danger that might get them killed. it is too easy
to say they dynamited the towers but prove it. thats a whole differnt
matter.



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geronimo
2006-09-26 16:26:17 UTC
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The perpetrators have made sure that all the physical evidence was
thoroughly destroyed, they are not stupid. We have only the videos,
seismograph recordings, and the eyewitness testimonies. There is
probably not enough left to EVER absolutely "prove" the theory that
explosions took place within the buildings. I am not an expert in
this by any means, but I have common sense and wasn't born
yesterday...and I am sure that the degree of destruction of the towers
and the victims in the towers (just about total) is far beyond what
would have ocurred if the towers had fallen from structural failure
caused by the airliner impacts. Can you cite the sources which show
that thorough forensic examinations of the steel beams, including
metallurgical analysis, was done? Was there a single govt.
investigator who looked at the physical evidence with it in his mind
that perhaps explosives were involved? DId they ever specifically run
tests for explosives residues? Or was this a govt. conducted
examination (the NIST) that was of similar thoroughness and quality
to the autopsy which was done of the body of JFK at Bethesda? (I.E.,
intended from the beginning to "prove" the official govt. line?


On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:23:50 GMT, "Nick Markowitz"
Post by Nick Markowitz
If all the metal was shipped to China how was NIST able to show the beams
sitting out on the Staton Island heap with the serial numbers on them to do
there research.
and in depth metalurgy.
Not all the metal disapeared more legend stuff and statements taken out of
context.What about the steel from WTC that was remelted and used in the new
war ship bow.
Yes some steel was suposedly taken by mafia for black market But the trucks
hauling it to staton island were fitted with GPS with in a few days to track
the steel and other loads.
Like I said speculation and conjecture does not cut it in a court of law.
sighting one thing as total proof of a crime does not work either.
To take a matter to court and get conviction it must pass various provable
standards.
This includes all photographs and other media and testing standards must
meet and pass the accepted standards of the courts .
Do not tell me how easy it is to get a warrant yes some are done slipshod
most are not and a respectable judge
will not issue a warrant unless it meets the standards required.
I could just as easily make a film or documentary about WTC and fill it with
lies and conjecture put it on the internet and sell it and have a milllion
people bielieve it.
but it could not and would not pass muster in the courts.
If any of these individuals who had solid provable evidence that could be
taken to the courts or even the world court I would be among the first to
make sure it got there and was brought to the worlds attention.
Unfortunately no one has come forward with any thing more than speculation
and conjecture.
no hard proof.
If you want to know who was behind 911 start with the stock market find out
who those individuals were who
placed the put options on the airlines that day.
and made all the money.
then follow it from there.
Deep Throat said it best :" follow the money."
Of course this takes real investigative skills and the chance
some one will come and knock on your door and make you disapear.
making a speculative documemntary just makes one a useful idiot as the real
perpatators get away with what they did.
Were americans even possible goverment employees involved in 911 better
bielieve it.
Because some one profitted off the stock market and a lot more have
profitted tremendously with all the security stuff being sold to DHS and
corporations etc. in the name of protecting the country maybe the same
individuals .
There were how many corporations that back dated stock proxys etc that made
loads of money off of 911 Thats a known provable fact currently under
investigation by SEC
There were also those in the goverment Like Jamie Gorecky who put the
Firewall up between the FBI and NSA/CIA from sharing intellegence files
which might have stopped 911 before it happened.
There were numerous attempts to get the FBI and other agencys to look into
why middle eastern men were learning to fly but not land planes which were
ignored by the FBI .
Why because the FBI and other law enforcement agencys ignore civilains with
information on possible criminal matters. Civilains in the eyes of law
enforcemnet are not credible. Another known and proved fact.
Nothing has changed either in this matter.
There have been numerous break ins and vandalisims at
Radio and TV station transmitter sites it has been brought to FBI and DHS
attention as this could be possible terrorists attempting to get Info on how
all this work and what has FBI, DHS done nothing. all they have done is
issue a statment to broadcast engineers to travel to transmitter sites in
pairs as a secuirty precauiton.
I had unknown individuals attempt to knock down one of the radio towers at
WAVL 910 am FBI,DHS, FCC contacted becuse of the damage which knocked WAVL
off the air .No response no investigation.
Could it have been possible terrorists you tell me its a christian religon
station.
I even contacted Alex jones the big 911 and big government conspiracy talk
host to look into the matter nothing.
Want to know why no one wants to take a hard look into the real perpatrators
maybe becuse theres real danger that might get them killed. it is too easy
to say they dynamited the towers but prove it. thats a whole differnt
matter.
.
.
s***@heart.com
2006-11-16 21:30:53 UTC
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Post by l***@hotmail.com
Professor Steven Jones, who lectures in
physics at the Brigham Young University in Utah, says the official
version of events is the biggest and most evil cover up in history.
obviously an idiot.

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